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#21 Langoniery

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:04 PM

Tak jinak může byt bard stejný DMG maker jako hunt s hydrama, 150dex a 85+agi..?

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to asi tezko jelikoz je pomalejsi ale slupky by mel davat jen o neco mensi nez hunter...ale to chce vyzkouset protoze by se MS by teoreticky melo spomat rychlejs nez DS
Proste aspd ma mensi ale spomavat by to mohl rychlejs ale bard ma rozhodne vyhodu, ze muze nosit buclik a pokud MS nema delay tak nepotrebuje ani agi a staci mu jen 150 dex 80-90 vit 30int a zbytek agi (aby vubec toho archera naexpil) a pak je to docela opruz zabit takovyho barda viz Oggi a jeho brindhon

Edited by Langoniery, 11 August 2005 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:05 PM

Ales: bude horsi damager bard neni primarne urcen jako damager ale jako suport jeho vyhoda je hlavne v tom ze muze hrat treba sting pro wize a do toho ostrelovat cile melody strikem kterym dokaze davat opravdu slusne rany cca o 800-1000 mensi jak hunt DS s hydrama a dalsi vyhoda barda pokud si da nekdo pneumu muze sekat aspon kytarou ,, hunt je pneumou vyrizen :mellow:

edit no rozdil dmg pri GW asi bude jeste mensi nepocital sem redukce df atd :()

Edited by oggi, 11 August 2005 - 12:08 PM.

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#23 Langoniery

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:07 PM

Ales: bude horsi  damager  bard  neni primarne urcen jako damager ale jako suport  jeho vyhoda je hlavne v tom ze muze hrat  treba sting pro wize  a do toho ostrelovat  cile melody strikem kterym dokaze davat opravdu slusne rany  cca o 800-1000 mensi jak hunt DS s hydrama a dalsi vyhoda barda  pokud si da nekdo pneumu muze  sekat  aspon kytarou  ,, hunt je pneumou vyrizen  :mellow:

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neni az tak zcela pravda staci env. clip :(

#24 oggi

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:09 PM

Langoniery: dobre tak si cil nahodi argiope kartu :mellow:
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#25 oggi

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 10:31 AM

THuk: pro solo barda pri GW , melody strike ,frost joke , magic stings ,impesive rif , music leson .. ...kdyz mas k sobe dancerku je dobre mit combo clasical pluck
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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:12 PM

fejk: nebo nekdo hraje i pro guildu  pomaha ji expit  hunti vybavu  udelat za par tydnu clowna a bejt stejne lama neni styl  kazdeho hrace  :huh: 
ja mam treba GW  barda  na CZRO a a ze bych expil pomalu to ne kdyz mam za sebou priesta ( dobrou  vybavu ) staci si sednout jen kdyz si davam boosty a to mam jen 27+15 int :)

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oki, chapu. Guildu vytahnes rychleji s int a nahuntis vice taky s int, ze sedis jen pri boostech je mozne, ale nekillujes to tou rychlosti co s int,

Jinak bylo to jen ze zajmu, nikomu nerikam at to jede a pro ty co chodi do prace jako ses ty, je vit jasna volba, ale pro ty co meli prazdniny mi to prislo zbytecne.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:29 PM

gagNick: ja nemyslel ze lip vytahnes guildu s int , ale narazel sem na fejka ze on misto toho aby pomahal expit guildu tak radci leavne aby nahodou netracel exp :huh:
edit: SP me vydrzi vzdy na tu dobu co trva bless bard ma fakt dost sp to v rychlosti zabijeni je ti fuk nevim jakou tu ma fejk vybavu na sting ale na czro je davam na dva DS, arcolouse to same bez lex :) :huh:

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#28 Moon

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 09:27 PM

Takze, na tomhle linku je video jak dosahnout velke rychlosti DS, pri male AGI. Je to sice jen s Bardem, ale pravdepodobne to pujde i s Hunter class. Takze se na to mrknete a napiste co si o tom myslite. Pokud neumite anglicky, snad vam bude stacit video, ale doporucju si precist i ten clanek!! :)
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#29 Sinarra

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 01:57 PM

Skor si myslim ze glove bude prebytok takze podla mna ich moc nevymeni :)
Edit :Oggi bola som rychlejsia :) :)

Edited by Sinarra, 05 September 2005 - 01:59 PM.

Vycerpala som moznosti dokazat, ze som clovek - tak sa smejem.

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#30 Ippang

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:28 PM

as far as i know, only 1 arrow... it hshould take 2 :)

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DS should take 1 arrow only... like it is on kRO.
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#31 Xperiment

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 04:27 PM

So what? Spear boomerang is a skill which damages enemy while Wikipedia specifically says:

There is little to no evidence that returning boomerangs were ever used as hunting tools.

I think it's a fair tradeoff.

EDIT: Forgot to say that I should stand corrected: In one of my posts I said s'thing like "boomerang that hits does not return to its owner"... Well, it's true but I should add that (according to my info) boomerang was never supposed to hit in first place. Yes, boomerang-like sticks were used, but these were not supposed to return back.

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lets get petty....

Double strafe fires two arrow, Arrow shower minimaly 7.

Spear Boomerang... ech... imagine it being mistical skill with which knight recalls spear back with his mind :)

But how do u hit something with arrows that are not even there? that should be some matk attack then (creation of arrows from thin air :) )
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#32 Ippang

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 04:46 PM

lets get petty....

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I unlike some others will actually do you a favor and not get petty. Important facts are:
1) DS uses 1 arrow on kRO - at least AFAIK
2) there are a lot of discrepancies between RO and real life and DS is only one of them
3) we're being sooo off-topic :)
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#33 Dandy

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Posted 01 October 2005 - 12:50 AM

Mohl by me nekdo prosim napsat build se skillama barda, ktery by mel slouzit poze pro hunteni veci.

:D diky :D

#34 oggi

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 08:02 AM

Dandy: tak na hunteni veci zadny skill u barda nepotrebujes staci ti DSko co ma archer hodne dex agi a primerene int
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 03:24 PM

No to já vím já jsem to tam uváděl aby mě někdo nepsal GW build ale moc se nevyznám ve skillech barda tak by mě zajímalo co byste mě doporučili. Jelikož skilly tady ani ve fóru na czechru jsem rozepsané nenašel.

#36 Ippang

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:26 PM

Ak rozumieš anglicky, pozri sa na Aldotenqovu príručku na ROEmpire, je to asi to najlepšie, čo som videl pre barda/dancerku/minstrela/gypsy. Len Ťa musím upozorniť... mimo WoE a MVP (a častokrát ani v MVP) máš takmer nulovú šancu na zohnanie partnera do duetu (aspoň na CzRO a tu určite tiež), takže vož skôr sólo pesničky.
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#37 Yenifer

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 12:28 PM

dotazek... jakej je rozdil mezi vit 90 a vit 100 pri gw? mam build u kteryho jsem chtel jet s bonusem vit 100, ale bylo mi receno ze 100 je na nic ze 90 staci... co vy na to.. delam barda prvne takze me ty finesy unikaj :)
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#38 oggi

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 01:09 PM

Yenifer: 100 vit je hodne ..90 staci
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Posted 18 October 2005 - 01:22 PM

Yenifer: 100 vit je hodne ..90 staci

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mno jasan ale proc :)
jaka je sance na stun pri vit 90 a pri 100 je nula? atp... to me zajma :D

ze 100 je hodne a 90 staci uz sem slysel ale duvooood :)
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Posted 18 October 2005 - 01:40 PM

Yenifer: pri 90 vit je tak kratky ze ani nezjistis ze si dostal stun zjistis ho leda tak ze se ti prerusi hudba ale to neni problem kdyz efekt na spoluhrace pusobi i 20 sek po ukonceni hrani :) navic pri 90 vit je mala sance na dostani stunu

na czro mam barda co ma 80 vit :)
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