Jump to content
Reborn fórum

Dotazy a nápady

k3dT

By k3dT
in Vše kolem serveru

Recommended Posts

Ippang Newbie

Ippang

Posted
Posted

On iRO page there is written some "probability" for successful provoke... so at least it once was like that. If you want more trustworthy source, it's at GameFAQs and Comprehensive sim too.

Na stránke iRO je nejaká pravdepodobnosÂť íşspeÄného Provoke... takže to minimálne aspoř tak bývalo. Ak chcete nejaký dí´veryhodnejÄí­ zdroj, je to aj na GameFAQs a Comprehensive simulatore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 3,1k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Xperiment Newbie

Xperiment

Posted
Posted
On iRO page there is written some "probability" for successful provoke... so at least it once was like that. If you want more trustworthy source, it's at GameFAQs and Comprehensive sim too.

Na stránke iRO je nejaká pravdepodobnosÂť íşspeÄného Provoke... takže to minimálne aspoř tak bývalo. Ak chcete nejaký dí´veryhodnejÄí­ zdroj, je to aj na GameFAQs a Comprehensive simulatore.

6421[/snapback]

 

 

hm... from iRo...

 

A Basic Swordman skill. This skill is mastered at Lv.10

Taunt a target and bring its attention to you.

The target loses defense but it's attack strength increases while provoked.

You cannot provoke Bosses or undead monsters.

The higher the level difference between the character and the provoked target is, the higher success rate the skill will have.

 

Swordi skills

 

okay... but still now its seriously nerfed... even lvl10 dont have 100% chance, and knight dont really have huge sp pool to provoke (which is one of his main roles...) :)

 

 

while we r at this skill fixing... can u fix skill Signum Crucis too? :)

it dont work according to this desciption.... it is affecting Demons and undeads by race but its supposed to affect Shadow and Undead (thus giving far ore bigger range and being much more usefull specialized skill).

 

It might seem irrelevant, but that change is very Big and important. Can you fix it?

 

Aco Skills

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Xperiment Newbie

Xperiment

Posted
Posted
I can fix this...but...is it really bug? Official servers may change it, or there may be some diffs between iRO/kRO/pRO. Eathena dev's have information from all official servers.

6427[/snapback]

 

it is not bug, the skill has been changed. just as it is written on iRo page,

it was doing that effect before, now they changedit to do this thing, coz it was more-less useless as it was(not many places where it would be actually usefull i guess).... (i guess they wanted to encourage more people to divert from cookie cutter builds and try other aco skills)

 

so if you can fix it, it would be really great. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thorondor Newbie

Thorondor

Posted
Posted
ja to tak neberu, ale pochop ze to jak byl ten skill predtim bylo nelogicky moc uber. nevim jaky presvedcivejsi vysvetleni mate nez to "ja nestihl stopnout cast wizne a ona me zabila". na to fakt nehraju

6417[/snapback]

No, wiz ma instant SC, takze bez medusy je ten boj absolutne nevyrovnany.

Na druhou stranu dnesni redukce na magii byly uz opravdu... trapny.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sir Loon Newbie

Sir Loon

Posted
Posted
No, wiz ma instant SC, takze bez medusy je ten boj absolutne nevyrovnany.

Na druhou stranu dnesni redukce na magii byly uz opravdu... trapny.

6438[/snapback]

no pockej, ale to ze da SC ma urcitou procentualni sanci, nehlede na to ze ho to stoji gem, ktery taky neni zadarmo. btw nema SC casttime 1 sekundu?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thorondor Newbie

Thorondor

Posted
Posted
no pockej, ale to ze da SC ma urcitou procentualni sanci, nehlede na to ze ho to stoji gem, ktery taky neni zadarmo. btw nema SC casttime 1 sekundu?

6439[/snapback]

Dneska na me padlo SC od wize ktereho sem piercoval a jeste ho rezal sin...

Bylo to bez sacri. Behem vteriny sme to SC meli oba. Mimochodem, je SC abnormal status nebo ne?

Kdyz bude provoke branit v kouzleni 20 sec tak na nej za taky klidne budu mit sanci na neuspech a zaplatim gem :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Elessi Newbie

Elessi

Posted
Posted
Dneska na me padlo SC od wize ktereho sem piercoval a jeste ho rezal sin...

Bylo to bez sacri. Behem vteriny sme to SC meli oba. Mimochodem, je SC abnormal status nebo ne?

Kdyz bude provoke branit v kouzleni 20 sec tak na nej za taky klidne budu mit sanci na neuspech a zaplatim gem :)

6441[/snapback]

sc instant rozhodne neni ale pri 130dex sa cast time skrati na cca 13%...

ak bude provoke stat gem, bude mat cast time 1s, bude mat dosah 2 policka, uspesnost bude mat pevnych 60% a bude ho liecit status recovery tak kludne...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thorondor Newbie

Thorondor

Posted
Posted
sc instant rozhodne neni ale pri 130dex sa cast time skrati na cca 13%...

ak bude provoke stat gem, bude mat cast time 1s, bude mat dosah 2 policka, uspesnost bude mat pevnych 60% a bude ho liecit status recovery tak kludne...

6444[/snapback]

No... ono az zmizi ty pitomy bonusovy redukce na GW tak to bude zas vsechno ok. Ale ted kdyz proti sobe sotoji sve party lidi a snazi urputne zabit jedna druhou a opravdu to nejde, tak je to SC fakt hodne silny. Az zas wizna padne na bash a dva pirce, tak to nebude tak markantni.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thorondor Newbie

Thorondor

Posted
Posted
Melee damage ma redukci jen 10%.

6448[/snapback]

Ono s tharou a poopoo to vychazi na nejakych 76% redukce celkem, kazdych 10% znamena prakticky dmg na polovinu. Knechta ochotneho chlastat nezabije nic. Ja sem mel dnes na GW jen 60WP protoze mi nejak nevysly prachy, a stejne sem si ustal co bylo potreba - jen sem si musel odpustit machrovani knecht vs. cela guilda.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ippang Newbie

Ippang

Posted
Posted
it is not bug, the skill has been changed. just as it is written on iRo page,

it was doing that effect before, now they changedit to do this thing, coz it was more-less useless as it was(not many places where it would be actually usefull i guess).... (i guess they wanted to encourage more people to divert from cookie cutter builds and try other aco skills)

 

so if you can fix it, it would be really great.  :)

6428[/snapback]

iRO only rarely changes skill descriptions and - furthermore - they tend to mistake undead race with property and dark property with demon race so I would believe SC affects Demons, not shadow property monsters.

On the other side, two guides on Ragnainfo and RO Datazone say that it affects demon race... and kRO has a sentence beginning with "andedeu sokseong" (first word seems to be transcription of undead and second means property) and word sokseong occurs only once (so no other properties) in the sentence (took a while for me to figure out) - so it seems kRO has no "shadow property" but "demon race" too.

With provoke, it's simply different, the probabilities are there even at kRO's site.

 

EDIT: If you don't want to believe me, here's the sentence in Korean:

언데드 속성 또는 악마형 몬스터의 디펜스를 절대치로 하락시키는 기술로 사정거리가 상당히 넓다.
and here's what an automatic translator provided me with:
Un place tu the attribute or demoniac elder brother it drives and su it sprouts and the D pen su range is wide considerably with the technique which it depreciates with an absolute value.
The translation is really crappy cause it was not able to find out that some words are English written in han-geul. :)

 

About the panacea... well, maybe it should cure every abnormal status when used but what if you can't use it? And in frozen, stun or sleep you shouldn't be able to use items, should you?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Xperiment Newbie

Xperiment

Posted
Posted
iRO only rarely changes skill descriptions and - furthermore - they tend to mistake undead race with property and dark property with demon race so I would believe SC affects Demons, not shadow property monsters.

On the other side, two guides on Ragnainfo and RO Datazone say that it affects demon race... and kRO has a sentence beginning with "andedeu sokseong" (first word seems to be transcription of undead and second means property) and word sokseong occurs only once (so no other properties) in the sentence (took a while for me to figure out) - so it seems kRO has no "shadow property" but "demon race" too.

With provoke, it's simply different, the probabilities are there even at kRO's site.

 

EDIT: If you don't want to believe me, here's the sentence in Korean:

언데드 속성 또는 악마형 몬스터의 디펜스를 절대치로 하락시키는 기술로 사정거리가 상당히 넓다.
and here's what an automatic translator provided me with:The translation is really crappy cause it was not able to find out that some words are English written in han-geul. :)

 

About the panacea... well, maybe it should cure every abnormal status when used but what if you can't use it? And in frozen, stun or sleep you shouldn't be able to use items, should you?

6460[/snapback]

 

they updated recently :)

when they pur transcendent classes

transc

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ippang Newbie

Ippang

Posted
Posted
if provoke was updated, i dont see the reason for other 1st/2nd class skills not to be updated as well...  :)

6472[/snapback]

And in what way it was updated? I think it sometimes failed for my swordie-to-be-crus on CzechRO and that is quite old version of Aegis. And other skills really seem not to be updated, so...

But maybe I'm wrong, it's too late now so I'll try to find out something about this tomorrow.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Xperiment Newbie

Xperiment

Posted
Posted
And in what way it was updated? I think it sometimes failed for my swordie-to-be-crus on CzechRO and that is quite old version of Aegis. And other skills really seem not to be updated, so...

But maybe I'm wrong, it's too late now so I'll try to find out something about this tomorrow.

6474[/snapback]

 

excuse moi, but provoke never ever failed to defrost/provoke on czechro :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sir Loon Newbie

Sir Loon

Posted
Posted
excuse moi, but provoke never ever failed to defrost/provoke on czechro ;)

6475[/snapback]

weeeee aaaare the chaaaaampions .... and not czechro :)

 

btw. je tu dost (k me nelibosti pochopitelne;)) deti co neumi anglicky, tak pak nekdo udelejte souhrn o tom co se tu psalo

 

ps. ja zas nerozumim slovakum, ale hafina mi to snad prelozi :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...