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#21 Ulric

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 04:46 PM

Glorie = 30 luk = +6 atk :rolleyes:))))))

Je mozne, ze to na acid terror nema efekt, ale normalne 5 bodu v LUK a 5 bodu v DEX zvysuje atk o 1. (pro archer class plati STR misto DEX)

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 05:04 PM

Glorie = 30 luk = +6 atk :lol:))))))

Je mozne, ze to na acid terror nema efekt, ale normalne 5 bodu v LUK a 5 bodu v DEX zvysuje atk o 1. (pro archer class plati STR misto DEX)

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Tak jo, s tim LUK si me dostal :rolleyes: O DEX to vim, ale o LUK sem nevedel. Zas sem o neco chytrejsi B)
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#23 Gwaihir

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 06:42 PM

Dobry, nevim jak je na tom alchac s SPckama (acid teror je 15sp) a jak dobre se mu hunti veriti kvuli acid bottle, ale celkove to vypada na celkem schopnou postavu. Nevim proc je teda tolik knechtu a tak malo alchacu :/ Asi kazdymu ten alchac prijde tezky na premysleni, ne? Knecht si vezme piku, BP a brandishuje, alchac musi si dopredu vyrobit poty a vali. Na druhou stranu alchac bude mit malo HP a pri stretu s asura monkem ma vetsi sanci ten knecht (mozna str/dex alchymista by tu asuru zrusil vcas). No nevim, mozna si to taky zkusim, jak by se to hralo :rolleyes:

EDIT: Ale musi se vzit jeste kolik ma takovejch alch HP a SP a jestli je schopnej knechta zabit nez ten to uchlasta a alcha umlati. No vit knechta asi neda....

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 08:01 PM

Dobry, nevim jak je na tom alchac s SPckama (acid teror je 15sp) a jak dobre se mu hunti veriti kvuli acid bottle, ale celkove to vypada na celkem schopnou postavu. Nevim proc je teda tolik knechtu a tak malo alchacu :/ Asi kazdymu ten alchac prijde tezky na premysleni, ne? Knecht si vezme piku, BP a brandishuje, alchac musi si dopredu vyrobit poty a vali. Na druhou stranu alchac bude mit malo HP a pri stretu s asura monkem ma vetsi sanci ten knecht (mozna str/dex alchymista by tu asuru zrusil vcas). No nevim, mozna si to taky zkusim, jak by se to hralo :rolleyes:

EDIT: Ale musi se vzit jeste kolik ma takovejch alch HP a SP a jestli je schopnej knechta zabit nez ten to uchlasta a alcha umlati. No vit knechta asi neda....

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Ve srovnani alch vs. knecht. Ma knecht mnohem vic hp. Pokud u alcha nejedes vit build, nedostanes se pres 10k hp. Sp je na tom zas lip alch, int 30/36 ti zajisti slusnej regen. A pri spamu ruznych potu ti sp prilis ubyvat nebudou. Zvlast kdyz budes mit boosty :lol: Co se tyce utocny sily, to je na tom alch trochu hur. Prvne je zavysly na lahvickach a tim padem na surovinach. A za druhy ma Acid Terror prerusitelny cast time. Na druhou stranu ten skill ignoruje flee a def, tim se trochu ta dmg vyrovnava. Pak mas este mammo a to je slusnej utocnej skill, jen trochu zavyslej na penezich.
Zalezi na buildu, Deathmanuv build treba na expeni neni zas tak spatnej.
Rozhodne nemej strach, ze by te knecht na gw dal. Alch je uber tank, utankujes temer cokoliv, co te nezabije hned. Potion Pitcher je 3x rychlejsi nez Heal, pokud healujes sebe (s vit 80-90 to je 2k+- za jeden wp). Navic mas mnohem vetsi nosnost nez knecht. I postava unese tak o 1k vic a pak mas este vozejk.

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#25 Gwaihir

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 11:22 PM

No ale ani str/dex ani str/agi build nemuze mit 80 a vice vit. No a str/agi ten acid terror asi knechtovi neda a mamo asi jo, ale to vit knecht v poho utankuje. No necham toho stejne si zas udelam snap monka :rolleyes:
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 11:32 PM

No ale ani str/dex ani str/agi build nemuze mit 80 a vice vit. No a str/agi ten acid terror asi knechtovi neda a mamo asi jo, ale to vit knecht v poho utankuje. No necham toho stejne si zas udelam snap monka :rolleyes:

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To byli buildy postaveny na rychlou likvidaci agi nebo vit postavy. Kdyz pouzijes muj build, ktery sem sem postnul, tak je zabijes taky, jen ti to potrva mnohem dyl, ale zas budes tezko zabitelnej :lol: Pravdou je, ze postavy s healem nezabijes, nemas jak.

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 11:27 PM

To byli buildy postaveny na rychlou likvidaci agi nebo vit postavy. Kdyz pouzijes muj build, ktery sem sem postnul, tak je zabijes taky, jen ti to potrva mnohem dyl, ale zas budes tezko zabitelnej :( Pravdou je, ze postavy s healem nezabijes, nemas jak.

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To ne ale pomoci acid teroru je muzes pripravit o brneni pokud nemaji ochranu a o neco lepe je muze zabit nekdo jiny :mellow:
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Posted 15 August 2005 - 09:45 PM

myslim ze otazka k veci :-)
akaze tu je rovnica na vyrobu potov?

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:12 PM

myslim ze otazka k veci :-)
akaze tu je rovnica na vyrobu potov?

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Domnivam se ze tahle:

Now, as for a potion creation formula, I stand by the one posted below. Sadly there is no 100% confirmed formula, but this one is accurate enough for me. And as an important note to remember, an adopted Alchemist will have halved success rates!

PR*1 + PP*3 + Joblv*0.2 + [Dex + Luk + (Int/2)] X 0.1 + a + 5

With a equating to:

Red, yellow, and white potions = 15.
Alcohol = 5.
Floras, marine spheres, bombs, and acids = -5.
Blue potions = -10.
Glistening coats and condensed potions = -15.


A tady je Potion Creation Calculator

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 11:23 AM

moj build inspirovany Maulom
99/50 agi+bless
STR 69+19 (+ nieco na zaokruhlenie)
AGI 21+19 (najvacsia zmena oproti Maulovi. v jeho builde nizke agi podla mna znehodnocuje mammo)
VIT 77+3
INT 24+17
DEX 79+18 (dan za AGI)
LUK 1 (prekvapujuce nie? :) )

MERCH staty:
increase weight limit 10
pushcart 10
discount 10
mammonite 10
item appraisal 1
(som lenivy takze idem zo 42 )

ALKAC staty
potion research 10
prepare potion 5
aid potion 5
bomb 5
acid terror 5
coatingy po 5 okrem helmy (ta staci na 3 aj tal bude malo potov a helma sa lepit nebude)
vending 1 (hotova mania nie ? :))

zbrane
+ 10 chain 2x hydra 1x skel worker ( na mammo + BS v parte)
mace class [4] so zipper bear? alebo na acid terror poradte :-)

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 11:40 AM

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Je to peknej gw build, jen int sniz o 1 nebo zvys o 1, aby si mel budto 30(bez blessu), nebo 42(s blessem). Zalezi jak casto bless mit budes. Na gw sp budes mit dost, ale pri expeni to je znat. Pokud teda budes expit pomoci cart revo :)
Ta agi je jasna, pokud budes mammovat. Ja s mammem na gw moc nepocitam, spis to vidim na spam Acid Terroru, mammo jen prilezitostne. Nejlepsi zbran na karty je Saber[3] a do ni Zippery. Ty se dost spatne schanej, ale jeden si urcite sezen (uz kvuli bonusu pro merch class) a dorovnej to treba andre kartama.

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#32 Ippang

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 11:42 AM

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Alchymista nemusi mammonitovat, od toho je BS... :) Ale skor mi vadi, ze Tebe nejak nejde pocitanie... Str v nasobkoch 10 (nie 88), Int v nasobkoch 6 (nie 41), Dex v nasobkoch 5 (nie 87), takze by si si to asi mal troska upravit. Item appraisal, no... radsej by som zobral ten bod do vendingu, ja mam na CzechRO appraisal, ale vobec by mi nechybal - aj tak vzdy viem, co je ta neidentifikovana vec, co mi padla. :)
Zbran 2 bloody boned saber, eventualne 2 bloody boned chain (ak mas BS v parte) na mammo/CR, saber s 3 zipper bearmi na demonstration/acid terror.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:04 PM

Ale ne ippangu, on to ma dobre ani o tom nevi :) Bonus k dex za job je prece +9, jen to v nekterych calculatorech stale neni opraveny. Dex mu pak da 88. A staci mu sehnat a vycvicit si Deviruchiho. Ten mu dorovna str a dex na 90.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:37 PM

blah, peti (censored)

S takhle malou str a aspd se nemusi s mammonitovanim zdrzovat, lidi se mu budou maximalne smat.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 02:06 PM

na zaokruhlenie STR aDEX sa rata s nejakym equipom.... int bol posledny zaradeny bod, preto nesedi zaokruhlenie... a co sa tyka mojho STR a AGI na mammo, ja si uvedomujem ze nie som BS. Mam ten skill proste rad a vyssia agi sa zide aspon pri expeni :-)

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 10:28 AM

na zaokruhlenie STR aDEX sa rata s nejakym equipom.... int bol posledny zaradeny bod, preto nesedi zaokruhlenie... a co sa tyka mojho STR a AGI na mammo, ja si uvedomujem ze nie som BS. Mam ten skill proste rad a vyssia agi sa zide aspon pri expeni :-)

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A akym equipom? Ak si uz das pracu s pocitanim statov, tak by si mal mat predstavu, co este budes nosit, nie iba "ved sa tam nieco da".
A expit IMO budes skor s CR a tu Agi az tak velmi potrebovat nebudes. A v PvP/WoE aj tak nikoho nez hunterov a 1st classy mammonitovat nebudes.
PS: Co sa tyka petov, suhlasim s Ulricom. Peti proste nemaju nic robit (ak odmyslime vyzieranie a predvadzanie sa).
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Posted 25 August 2005 - 03:19 PM

mantis karta a wormtail karta v accesory :) kym nenajdem devirouchiho. aj tak sa tu bavime o 99/50 co je tak ci tak taka mensia utopia (aspon u mna...) a vyssia agi zvysuje rychlost CR tak o com sa bavime?

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 10:00 AM

mantis karta a wormtail karta v accesory :)  kym nenajdem devirouchiho. aj tak sa tu bavime o 99/50 co je tak ci tak taka mensia utopia (aspon u mna...) a vyssia agi zvysuje rychlost CR tak o com sa bavime?

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S Mantisom mas o 1 Str viac, nez potrebujes... a Wormtail je... eh... preco nie zrovna Zeroma? A so Zeromom mas rovnako o 1 Dex viac.
Co sa tyka Agi, neviem, ci je to na eAthene rovnako alebo inak ako na Aegise (kde sa da CR spamovat rychlejsie ako ASpd), ale aj tak si myslim, ze by si ju mal ubrat v prospech Int - predsa len CR mina dost SP a to malicko, co v PvM ziskas vdaka Agi, presedis pri regene SP.
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Posted 26 August 2005 - 02:30 PM

Hmm. to je sice pravda. ale naco su mi sp ked budem lezat mrtvy s nizkym aspd? je to len par bodov hore dolu a uz som viac menej rozhodnuty. Vdaka za nazory.
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Posted 26 August 2005 - 03:00 PM

Hmm. to je sice pravda. ale naco su mi sp ked budem lezat mrtvy s nizkym aspd? je to len par bodov hore dolu a uz som viac menej rozhodnuty. Vdaka za nazory.

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Ty nepoznas poty? :blink: :o
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